waiting, how could that be? I just made it to #100 and I feel I'm on this board to much. Thanks for all your posts. Love,
Yadira
Yadira Angelini
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waiting ... sorry there's nothing for 5,000
by Simon ini just noticed that you're over 5,000 posts!.
of course the only thing beyond supreme one is supreme, supreme one.. maybe i should just wait until someone else joins you and larc and then we can make jokes about you all being the supremes ... i'll let you fight it out among yourselves as to who wants to be diana ross .
thanks for all you have contributed to the forum
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How to get someone out?
by Hyghlandyr ini am seeking information on stories of those who have assisted relatives or friends out of the organization.
particularly i would like books, or websites, or personal experiences, suggestions on step by step methods, to carefully present ideas to those who are staunchly pro jw, without alienating them further.
i am especially interested in situations in which a df person was able to finally break down the barriers.
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Yadira Angelini
Hyghlandyr,
I don't know how to use the smiles faces... but I wish you have hear me laughing about your description of what you would prepared to act at the KH... if they would dfs you... I wish you would tell us what the elder say and do, how was the look on their faces??? But I don't want to get you out of the point you wanted from this thread...
Thanks for responding... and I now understand where are you coming from. My post was worth your answer.
Mindchild, I like your analogy; it makes sense; I think about it, but since I'm not a JW or exJW, it is better to keep my mouth shut and just love and be patient. Bluesapphire, I was tempted.... Ha?
I write with Spanish accent, sorry,
Yadira
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How to get someone out?
by Hyghlandyr ini am seeking information on stories of those who have assisted relatives or friends out of the organization.
particularly i would like books, or websites, or personal experiences, suggestions on step by step methods, to carefully present ideas to those who are staunchly pro jw, without alienating them further.
i am especially interested in situations in which a df person was able to finally break down the barriers.
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Yadira Angelini
Hyghlandyr, you said:
"So for instance one friend of mine is dfed and cannot talk to her daughters for nearly two decades. She is a dear person to me. Seeing her pain grieves me. If it were me, I am a cold hearted, second generation, bastard. I would have simply cut them out of my thoughts, and of story. For those who think I can't, well I have done so in the past in regards to others that have abused me, my father, my mother, and former friens".Guess what? I like that! I wish I can have the courage to tell my JWs dauhgter that until she stops shunnig her other sister who have left the org... I will shun her the same... and from then on would like to get her out of my life... Instead, I'm playing Mrs. Nice mom... uuuggghhh!!! So, in my opinion, maybe you are the one who came out with the best answer on your own thread. (How ironic). Instead, I'm looking for a recipe that works, and nothing ever does. I consider some of the advises here very good, thouhg, but I wish I could have the heart of a man... at least, yours, Hyghlandyr!
I will be looking for your threads in the future.
Yadira
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HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????
by waiting insimon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.
" how mundane!.
fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.
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Yadira Angelini
"UUUUUUUYYYYYYYYY"!!!!! (Spanish expresion when one is scare)
I'm scared to post on this thread, because through my daughter, Bluesapphire, I'm just beginning to learn the 'virtual' language used on this board... for instance, she just explained to me what 'fluff ' means.. and I'm good for that.
But here I go! I'm risking only because is waiting's thread and she is great at getting people to talk deep thoughts. I am impressed about this thread's responses and very happy to hear from some of you so new and finally having the courage to share your experiences... but, enough of talking 'fluffing'.
I was a JW before I was born... I mean, I was suppose to be a witness to this board. Just kidding.
As some of you know, I'm here because one of my daughters is a JW... I have make many mistakes trying to get her out until I started visiting this site. I realized now that as she was single me out as worldly and weird in my beliefs, I was single her out as a radical cultist. I was treating her different than when she was not a JWs... I was labeling her and judging her and attacking her trough my behavior.... Then I joined this board and begin to learn from all of you and I have hope now... I am now only loving her as if religion doesn't exist between us.
I'm 55 and I'm catholic, which gives me a complex on this forum. Just kidding. I'm from Costa Rica and soon planning on inviting everyone here to take a trip there... that's all... love to all, especially to waiting.
Yadira
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another newbie
by desertflower inguess i've been lurking long enough.
been about 2 yrs or longer.. take a lot of nerve for the first post.my husband and i both left.
together although he knew long before i did.
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Yadira Angelini
Welcome to both of you... I belong to the apostate side, (Catholic), but see? on this board everybody is welcome.... I'm on this board cause I have a JW daughter... this board has help me so much and I found so much unconditional love here... Keep on posting!
Love to all,
Yadira
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Appeal to NBC Dateline
by Amazing ini will be sending this letter/email to nbc dateline at: [email protected].
i am posting it in the event some of you decide to do something similar: you can also mail this to:.
nbc news - dateline.
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Yadira Angelini
If you want to call me naive or ignorant, do so.
While I can recommend Amazing's letter and his idea of sending similar letters to Dateline, I'm also glad JT gave us some balance.
Last night as I watched Peter Jennig's program regarding the Scandal of the Catholic Church, he mentioned that they have been investigating this issue for a year... in other words, they were already planning to air this issue. They air it now when it best suits their pockets. Peter Jennig's program did not have anyone to give the balance of opinions from holy Bishops and priests who are innocent and how this is affecting their ministry. He did not have anyone there from excellent Seminaries like St Michael's Seminary in Orange County to give their oppinion about their formation of Priests, so they could have a fair balance to the issue. It's about money, let's wake up!
Hopefully, the same won't happen with the JW elders on the Dateline program; to the ones who are trying to change their WT policies to protect the children. I expect to be dessapointed when they air the Dateline program; they'll go as far as money, not about the issue itself. But I will be content nevertheless.
The same will happen regarding timing and facts. They want the money, not to inform the public. In my opinion, I wish they air the program after they are through with the Catholic Church... like JT said, the question is: what will the WT will do about it? The world will be expecting nothing less than what the Catholic Church is doing even if it is a little to late for them to show concern for the victims....
Another thing we need to take into consideration is the fact of the HUGE difference between WT and the Catholic Church regarding the double abuse the WT practice with the victims by threading to def. them if they talk. The victims going through to their shunning of their friends and family. Also the two witness they need to produce in order to make a valid fact about their ordeal..... I feel sorry for all of them Catholic victims and WT victims and so forth.
With love and respect to all you who have posted here,
Yadira
PS, Amazing, I will certainly send your letter, hopping the best time in our favor to be air it.
PS, PS: when are we going to stop feeding Yardif's brainless??? -
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Yerusalym, that's so sweet of you to send this picture... thanks... Love and blessigns
Yadira
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Losing my Religion......
by flower inwell at 29 years old, after a lifelong relationship/belief in/association with a higher power i called god, here i am very close to taking an athiestic or agnostic approach to the rest of my life.
it really hit me the other day although my doubts have been there but i just have been forcing myself to ignore them because i was afraid to give up that religious part of me because its all that i have ever been and i was afraid of the unknown.
but i realized after getting through another one of those weeks from hell that it makes no difference how much i pray or how much i believe.
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Yadira Angelini
Flower, daughter, look how many people have responded to you! how gloriuos! Love, always,
Yadira
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Losing my Religion......
by flower inwell at 29 years old, after a lifelong relationship/belief in/association with a higher power i called god, here i am very close to taking an athiestic or agnostic approach to the rest of my life.
it really hit me the other day although my doubts have been there but i just have been forcing myself to ignore them because i was afraid to give up that religious part of me because its all that i have ever been and i was afraid of the unknown.
but i realized after getting through another one of those weeks from hell that it makes no difference how much i pray or how much i believe.
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Yadira Angelini
Hi Flower, it's me talking here... I have a mouth and hands to type this post to you. I have a heart that alouds me to love you and to think of you and to wish you the best... thank God!
Your friend always,
Yadira
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Who has been out the longest?
by Beans ini have been out since december 22 1984, 17 years,i was 16 and never looked back!
and thats when apostacy was in the early stages and am now a full fledged member!.
beans
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Yadira Angelini
I have never been JW; it is refreshing to read how you are all doing. Congratulations!!! ah! one more thing! Didn't Amazing promised to close his story by May? His 10 year anniversary? I can't wait for my JW to say the same....
Love,
Yadira